This is going to be a little out of order, but it'll help explain where I'm trying to go with this.
MK wrote:We want to know that you went and instead of buying toys for yourself and such you saved until you could spend it on us.
See, the first half isn't the problem. My stinginess towards myself (spending wise) comes naturally (and as a college student, it's a good thing I operate this way). Of course, it's that same mentality that makes it hard to part with so much money on something I don't see as being appreciated (or more accurately, it's more like taken for granted); of course, maybe love will tell me otherwise when I'm at that stage, but I just don't see it being a natural gesture. It would seem more right if there was a wider range of ways I could send the message of "I love you" and then choosing the one that's most appropriate for our given situation (not to say expense won't be involved, but there ought to be some flexibility for the point(s) of emphasis).
MK wrote:and no I dont want to hear about how a woman should know a guy loves her because though we do we also want little things to show it.
I'm groovy with (numerous) little things, and however many medium-sized things. It's the big things that bother me when they feel empty.
MK wrote:We want from you we want your attention we want your time we want little things that remind us every second that you care.
For the right person, that won't be a problem.
MK wrote:Each of you GUYS are forgetting that woman are want creatures. ...
Are they supposed to be want creatures more than guys? Are women supposed to be fundamentally different from men not just in anatomy, but also in behavior, feelings, emotions, desires, goals, responsibilities, and values? (I'm not going to blame anyone from feeling they should adhere to the existing gender roles, because the message/reinforcement is overbearing.) I know the benefits and investments cut both ways (and I *know* we men have more to lose), but I want to believe I can close the separation between us, even if it is just a little bit.
That said, we all have different perspectives of the world, and I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree for now. There's not a whole lot more I can say without feeling like I'm repeating myself for the fifth or seventeenth time, and without having offense taken.